WT318 – Marc Hates the French

On today’s show, we’re talking about poly getting thicker, green lumber, and some voicemail roulette.

What’s On the Bench

  • Marc is playing with turbines and HVLP finishing
  • Matt is still working on his Farm House Table
  • Shannon is rubbing his wood with a blind rabbet

What’s New

  • William Ng is venturing into online woodworking education
  • Dusty shared a dangerous video about electrocuting your wood.
  • William shared a Shaker workbench build by Samuel Mamias. Check out his YouTube Channel and brush up on your French


  • Preston says that rubbing alcohol removes graphite as well as Acetone
  • Eric is a metullurgist who has thoroughly examined his sharpened edges and says hone to 8000 and strop
  • Johnathan and Brian have found Walnut at Home Depot in Maryland


We take voicemails about wood moisture, fixing an error in a bench top, and several for Zachary Hansen


  • Kyle’s Arm-R-Seal is getting thick and chunky
  • Kevin bought green lumber and wonders what to do with it.

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15 replies on “WT318 – Marc Hates the French”

With regard to keeping air away from partial containers of finishes, have you tried Stop Loss Bags http://www.stoplossbags.com/ ?

I use them for Arm-R-Seal, Shellac and Oil and am able to use the finish down to the last drop.

I have no connection with them. I’m just a satisfied customer.

I couldn’t agree more with Larry about the StopLoss Bags. I’ve been using them for the last two years and now I get to use every last drop of finish. I used some GF Salad Bowl Finish today that has been in a bag for 16 months and was as fresh today as when I put it in the StopLoss Bag. Another nice thing is that they are inexpensive and cheap to ship. I’ve tried Bloxygen before and the Stop Loss Bags are 100% the way to go.

I keep my Waterlox fresh between uses by putting marbles in the can to keep the air out. It works well and I rotate the can gently to mix it.

Would putting a small amount of mineral spirits on the surface of the finish in the can create a barrier from the oxygen? …Or will it just dissolve/evaporate from the finish overtime?

I’ll clarify size and price at Home Depot.

Walnut – 0.75″ x 3.5″ are $4.32 lf
– 0.75″ x 5.5″ are $5.72 lf

Maple – 0.75″ x 3.5″ are $3.64 lf
– 0.75″ x 5.5″ are $4.66 lf
– 0.75″ x 7.25″ are $5.42 lf

I don’t know what kind of lumber the box stores have because I don’t shop there. Between amazon, my locally owned hardware stores, the hardwood dealer and local mills, I have zero reason to go to a blue orange box.

I’m curious about the brush finishing technique that Shannon uses. Can you provide a link to a description or demonstration? I’d like to know more.

In reference to the polissoir and the longevity of the finish:
I’ve spent a good bit of time visiting with some French antique furniture restorers, this guy in particular http://www.lebot-restaurationmobilier.fr/index.html and while he doesn’t use the polissor in his restoration projects he knew exactly what I was talking about as soon as I broached the subject.

We had a long discussion about the use of beeswax in French finishing, and how most fine furniture was finished with a polissor in conjunction with a paste made up of 2/3rds beeswax and 1/3 shellac wax (not shellac flakes but the actual wax) that was then made into a paste by adding gum spirits to the mixture. He said the resulting finish wasn’t going to be quite as durable as say an English polish, but that there’s no reason it won’t last for 100 years if maintained properly.

Just got to listen to this show today… overall good but i’m most interested in when you talk about wood working and related topics. The banter is fun but when proportion of banter is much greater than proportion of wood working talk i wonder why i’m listening. On the comment on not liking French: didn’t bother me but it pretty much hijacked the guys question and i was interested in the answer and it never came around…
great podcast.

You might listen again Andrew because that wasn’t a question. The guy was sharing a link to a YouTube video. Matt quickly described the video, a joke was made, and we moved on. So there was no question to answer.

As for the banter, if we EVER do a show where the banter even comes close to outweighing the woodworking information (without being specifically labeled as off-topic or on location) be sure to let me know and I’ll hang up my microphone immediately. 🙂

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