WT248 – We Lost Trenton!

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On today’s show we’re talking about popping figured maple without warming it up, gluing face grain to edge grain, and traditional turning tools vs carbide insert tools.

What’s on the Bench?

  • Marc is working on bent lamination rockers
  • Shannon’s shop is being taken over by house overflow.
  • Matt has released his dresser project in a video on demand format.

What’s New?

Poll of the Week

Where do you go for tool buying advice?


  • Jeremiah left us a voice mail with a not so good review of Woodworker’s Journal
  • Larry, Dave, and Steve all had great information about Woodsmith merging with ShopNotes.
  • Oscar suggests using a Forstner bit for the radius edges of a hinge mortise.
  • Greg has some great feedback on using tinted lacquer from a luthier’s perspective and urges use to check out the Telecaster forum for more info.


  • Robert is looking for a finishing solution to pop the grain on figured Maple without adding too much additional color to the natural wood.
  • Richard has a question about grain orientation while making a long grain cutting board.
  • Chris is just starting with wood turning and wondering about the differences between traditional gouges and carbide insert turning tools.

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13 replies on “WT248 – We Lost Trenton!”

Are you aware the Trenton is the home of the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense.

Yeah Hellboy lives there!!

As always a great show guys!!

For the last pool of the week on magazines, there was no option “I don’t buy woodworking magazines”, so something else is most likely the 33%

Rockler owns Woodworker’s Journal. I believe Ann Rockler Johnson is the publisher of the magazine. Woodcraft also publishes a magazine, Woodcraft Magazine so you actually know they are tied together.

Rockler also owns Bechdog Tools too. I do say a plus is Rockler does keep coming up with new tool ideas every couple of months.

Kyle, Rockler doesn’t come up with their own ideas, they actively solicit ideas from individual inventors and for a cut will help market them. A pretty savvy way to do business.

Thanks for getting to my questions on turning tools! I actually bought a cheap harbor freight set to get a feel for what I’d use most. I’m definitely going to give at least one of the carbide tools a try, seems like it would be well worth it.


I have a Shopsmith as well and if it weren’t for the carbide tools I wouldn’t be able to turn anything. The wood Talk guys helped me out as much as they could but there is no 12 step program for stupid. Even with a excellent link sent to me by the crew I couldn’t get the “ride the bevel”. Very frustrating. I bought some carbide tools from Harrison (I think that was it) one handle and 3 interchangeable cutters. Made all the difference in the world.

Slightly missleading on what it takes to get into traditional woodturning concerning sharpening needs. Most turners I know use a simple slow speed grinder (most people already have) a wolverine or similar system ($100-150) and a stone for honing. Fast, easy, consistent and cheap. As far as hand sharpening items like bowl gouges without a jig if you don’t want to invest in jigs (I use jigs a lot for bowl but not spindle). About as complicated as sharpening a chisel without a jig. Just something you learn to do.

I was loaned an EZ rougher and have used others carbid tips to try out. My impression was it would get really expensive fast. Especially if you turn harder woods like live oak or bodark or urban stuff that occasionally has a nail, barb wire, or bullets in it. I sharpen my gouges several times on most bowls and once more right before that last cut. I’m constantly honing my skews and spindles to maintain sharpness. Hence you could go thru three sides of a cutter in one ‘hard’ wood bowl or spindle if you know what a sharp edge does.

Biggest advantage I see of carbide tips is someone doesn’t have to learn something. That’s just wrong minded…

They have their place but why would you not want to spend an hour or so learning a new skill in a hobby?

As an infrequent turner, carbide tipped tools are more appealing to me for their ease of use.

Sure I might need to spend more time sanding to achieve a finished surface, but in the end I reach the same goal.

But there are times when ease of use trumps everything else, especially when my shop time is so finite.

If down the road I decide it’s important to expand my skills to include using more traditional tools then I’ll for certain go the route you outlined, but in the meantime, I just want to turn wood and tune out my day job in the lab.

Hi guys
I just bought a ford transit connect, it is the contractor version not the minivan version. Therefore the inside cargo area is rubber carpet and steel walls. The door panels are covered with a Masonite type material. I was thinking of laminating the panels and putting in some kind of 1/4 inch ply for the headliner and wall covering.
I have never done lamination before. I was reading on joe the woodworker that you can get paper backed laminate and use contact cement.
My question is how hard is it to laminate? What do I need to look out for? Would contact cement be the best option for an auto application or would you suggest another type of adhesive? Am I missing anything else?
By the way this replaced my Toyota Prius because I needed more of a truck.

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