WT148 – Beware of Shannon’s Rabbit Hole

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On today’s show, we’re talking about mineral oil spills, bit and brace advantages, wood movement in large panels, power hand planers for flattening boards, replaceable cutters vs traditional turning tools, and planer snipe.


What’s on the Bench

Marc is enjoying football and woodworking. He also has some issues with a particularly scary routing operation. Matt has been focusing on family lately and didn’t have much time for woodworking. Shannon cleared off his clamp rack and feels pretty good about it.

What’s New

Facebook gets a wood shop
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Poll of the Week

What do you think of traditional tool belts?


– Ron has some thoughts/concerns about vacuum sealing finishes as discussed in a previous show.
– Kenji lets us know, from experience, that farts don’t work quite as well as Bloxygen for preserving finishes.
– Rob sent us a link to this video showing the pipe organ desk discussed in Wood Talk #147.

– James thought we might be interested in seeing more of Roentgen’s amazing gadget furniture.


– Michael spilled mineral oil on a few project boards and is concerned about how it might impact staining and finishing.
– Dominic is wondering if using a bit & brace offers any real advantages over a powered drill.
– Dwayne is wondering about wood movement for a dresser top.
– Justin wants to know if a powered hand planer can be used for board flattening.
– Kyle wants our thoughts on traditional turning tools vs models with replaceable cutterheads.
– Brandon is looking to eliminate snipe from his planer. Marc referenced Wood Talk #52.

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7 replies on “WT148 – Beware of Shannon’s Rabbit Hole”

thank for answering my question was quit a surprise to see it name the episode! also didn’t think you would get so much power from a brace and bit drill might have to get me one now, been drilling for 30mm (1.2 inch) mortises and it dose run the cordless out quick and hold me up some times

Regarding the topic of glue set up within a vacuum: it seems that PVA does need the ability to dry in order to “fully” cure. In a bending class we did a free form laminate bend of some 3 inch wide strips in a banister vacuum bag. After curing in the bag under vacuum, it was still not even close to fully cured, although it was enough to hold its shape to facilitate the rest of the curing process.

Rube Goldberg would appreciate a ‘Wood Talk Elocution Dictionary’ 🙂

… Also, with the title of #148, I was expecting a picture of Shannon in a top hat and tails

Regarding meat powered boring tools in a power tool shop:
–A brace and bit excels at precise screw driving (not Philips head)
–Eggbeaters are great for really small drill diameters (~1/16), where power drills tend to snap them with any misalignment.

Thanks for answering my question about the mineral oil – as for Shannon – the “slats” are pieces that are to go into the head/foot boards. Not the slats that hold the box/mattress. Another note that I forgot to mention – it’s been almost a year now that it’s been that way. Plus Marc was right about it being a waterbased stain.

Oh well – guess I don’t have anything to lose other than some elbow grease. I’ll try cleaning them up and proceed on with the project that has been sitting in the corner for YEARS!

I always understood that PVA glue works on two principles. I might have the terminology incorrect but I think the concepts are 1) a chemical bond – as the glue hardens it causes adhesion and 2) a mechanical bond. the glue actually causes the wood fibers of the adjoining pieces to “weave” together and create a bond. The second bond is why you always see those broken glue joint demos showing that the “glue is stronger than the board” and why long grain joints are so much stronger than end grain (which get little of either type of bond). So even if the glue has not cured, I could see part of the second bond happening.

I also read somewhere that even the chemists at the glue companies don’t fully understand why it works, just that it does.

Thanks so much for taking my question! I ended up saving more and eventually got a 13 inch lunchbox planer I made room for. I appreciate all the hard work you guys do on the show and in your respective blogs. Keep up the great work!


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