WT452 – Something D-O-O Economics

On today’s show we’re talking about: storing lumber, radial arm saws, and adjustable shelf options.

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What’s On the Bench

  • Marc is made some mortising mistakes on the bunk beds
  • Shannon assembled his new Chevalet
  • Matt is finishing up the sideboard


  • William and Matt don’t want us to change and appreciate that we engage with our audience and answer questions.
  • Nate thinks Matt and Shannon are jerks but Marc is loveable
  • Matt is going to try to wear more safety gear with lacquer from now on
  • Wayne thinks a small shop layout is more about organization that where the tools are placed.


  • Kyle called in to talk about….???
  • Anthony used a pruning “tar in a can” to seal planter boxes

Lumber Industry Update

Jacob calls out Shannon for being “ignorant AF” about macroeconomics and Shannon responds with is own economics lesson about why the continued use of tropical hardwoods is the best way to protect those forests.


  • Tony wants our feedback on radial arm saws
  • Kevin wonders if he should sticker his dried lumber that won’t be used for a while
  • Geoffrey asks about his options for adjustable shelves beyond shelf pins

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8 replies on “WT452 – Something D-O-O Economics”

Hey guys, I’m a week late to give feedback on the “10-year old attitude” topic. I’ve been a listener since somewhere in the first-100 shows, and I’d like to give you my constructive criticism (I want to emphasize that these are my ideas meant to improve the show not scold you for anything).

I think you all still very seem to enjoy doing the shows, and still have a passion for what you are doing. That is evident.

My perception of the attitude drift has been more related toward the non-woodworking parts of the show. For a while y’all really tried to not “talk baseball” on the show which turned out impossible since you are all content creators as well as woodworkers. However, complaining about youtube’s pay-algorithms or facebook’s viewership thresholds does nothing for the show except being negativity. If the audience you are aiming for is truly the hobbyist wookworker, then i suggest attempting to minimize the amount of airtime spent airing grievances about the social influencer industry. There are entire other podcast dedicated to social networking and I avoid them.

In regards to the fact that the same 100 questions keep getting sent in. I’d suggest you give a short overview of the answer, and then consider that an opportunity to link back to your old episodes. This would not only alleviate the pain of re-answering that question, but also prove to drive traffic back to those web assets that are probably not generating as much traffic as they used to.

In all, I’m amazed at how well the audio format works for such a visual topic like woodworking, but you guys are the best at it. Thanks for doing what you do. I’m glad you are all still having fun with it.

Hey Guys!
Long time listener here.
First, I’d like to second everything Josh G. mentioned.
Second a constructive criticism I would mention …It seems to me that you often play voicemail messages during the Kickback segment that don’t add anything to the show. I understand that you like to give your audience a voice and play the messages “on-the-air”, but many of them just seem to ramble on and on about nothing and of course end with “Thanks for not quitting”. I don’t need to here every single voice memo that came in last week. These messages add nothing to the show for me, It’s like the family that passes the birthday cards around the table so everyone can read it….WHY?

Keep up the great work! Keep up your individual personalities!
Thank you for sharing your passion with us!

Hey, just wanted to let Marc know that I appreciated his reevaluation of his old cross dressing skit in light of our contemporary conversation on transgender rights and gender identity. It would be easy to just write it off as having fun and imploring others to not take it so seriously but it takes a bit of humility and empathy to recognize that it could be insensitive to others. I enjoy the solitary nature of woodworking and the professional end of it for me over the last decade has been primarily working with and for a lot of LGBTQ individuals. I have many friends and some family in that community. But occasionally I emerge from my bubble and engage with others and I’m reminded that this 44 year old gray haired man doesn’t always share the prevailing conventions of my fellow grizzled male woodworkers. So, thanks for that.

And my podcast app plays shows newest to oldest so I’ve been able to hear the change in the tenor in reverse over the last decade of the show. Personally, I like the conversational shift and the occasional eye(ear?)-rolling to the same 100 questions. I don’t hear it as condescending but just the same kind of grief that friends and family give one another. You all seem less afraid to give conflicting advice, too. There’s more than one way to skin a cat/smooth a board/chop a mortise and I’m glad you avoid the orthodox approach to tasks. There’s infinite resources online and sometimes I wonder if people are paralyzed because there’s so much info that they dare not take tool to wood until every possible choice has been vetted. Empiricism is not everything but I often find myself hearing a hundred questions from my subordinates in the shop about even the simplest task because they are afraid to have to recut anything. Kids these days…

Nevertheless, thanks for being some of the voices in my ears while I toil away.

Just started listening. Thanks for making the show. Can you try to remember the mute button when you get coffee (or whatever) while someone is talking? The bumps and clinks were a little distracting.

I’ve been going back in time, and I’ve encountered dog squeaky toys, interrupting children, persistent father video calls, and text messages, so I guess some clinking and bumping is small potatoes. Thanks for making work a little less boring!

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